Sooooo.you don't even know if they can be used of conditioning or the length of time before the benefits can be seen?? And you are still determined to use something you don't know jack about?!!
It's the imbeciles like you who give responsible and knowledgeable users like us a bad name and bad headlines. Liberal media and sissy jack-offs like ** Khelben ** have something to lie about because people like you f**k themselves up and make the news and statistics.
Lol goodluck with the acne, the shrinking of your genitals, and the fact that for the rest of your life your never going to produce natural levels of testosterone.